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Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.09 10:04:00 -
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So yet another incursion round our way, and something that seems to migrate our locals off. Mission systems empty, noobs suffer isk loss. Working as intended.
In its wake, come the mass of orcas and bling. These people add nothing to the the local economy, an inversion of the norm. Bloated gangs of grinders hit the hardest parts of incursions immediately. There is little to no chance of 'getting in' as a noob, and its either a bling boat or logi V for acceptance.
So what is wrong with incursions?
That little bar showing the level of invasion quickly turns totally blue. It then stays that way being milked for the whole weekend. Sansha Bob has been sighted, but nobody is going for him. Why is it so crap? Well, it ruins a game for a load of 'locals' who have to up and ship out for the duration. The unreality of Sansah sitting there taking an everlasting beating is toytown in itself.
The simplest solution? Once the 'skull' appears. You have 14 hours to find/kill the carrier or Sansha retreat and go elsewhere. That might drive the competition a bit. |

Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.09 12:56:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:You would think a creative minded Toon would welcome the opportunity to have 400 to 700 Billionaire Players come to their system and be willing to pay 200% for ammo, modules, nanite paste....
But I guess that escaped you.
Oh yes - escapes many more - they left system. You didnt get that bit.
The Orcas basically pull from the local market hubs - Jita, Amarr, Dodix and Hek. Trundling off while you milk the cow. You need that much ammo because you make it last forever - its not a broken mechanic in that sense. Its that unreality that makes it less than entertaining. Its the hisec NAP to match the blue donut. |

Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:26:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:CCP should stop trying to get me involved in the wide world of EVE and let me mindlessly AFK grind my NPCs in peace.
Well, all of the responses seem to say the same thing, like Zombies, they move to the Grind. Its not the lowly NPC .. oh wait. It is an NPC grind. Its just an extended one - grinding LP for another organisation. Which is worse?
Why do CCP let it happen, because it certainly didnt seem like this was meant to be anything other than a rush to tackle invarders. And now its just another cashcow, no player conflict over the winnings, no race to get it done.
No - its turned it from something decent to something tawdry and bland, and it sits affecting an area for a week when it should be over in hours. |

Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:33:00 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:
{ some sense }
aww, did the little carebear get turned down in his officer XLASB golem?
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Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:10:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:{some good sense} Just a glass half full perspective. 
Yes - thanks - I see the sense in some of what you say, and I understand the relationship between killing rat X and rat S in this case. It applies to all of eve. Poor Damsel need some intervention not blasting.
The only real difference in an incursion, well, its the impact it has on an area. Sickly green and hellish audio (try running 3 clients, you cant turn off that noise). Miners cant mine, missioners cant mission (well, suffer a lot isk wise), generally its a PITA unless your in the club.
I shall attend the obligatory channel and X up my LFSF scimi - old and L5 of course.
My corpmates will wince - my Orca not there, as we all shifted to mine elsewhere. Our incomes snapped. 3 month old toons are simply confused by it all - evidently I am the only one who think it sucks. The takers dont.
I thought Incursions were meant to be more like pvp - there is no drive or conflict though. Sorry if you think its fun, its simply the grind of missions - I'm quite sure the excitement doesn't exist in Incursions. One change would make it all the more urgent and 'realistic' . Milking 5 FTW |

Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:57:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Jean deVallette wrote:The only real difference in an incursion, well, its the impact it has on an area. Sickly green and hellish audio (try running 3 clients, you cant turn off that noise). Miners cant mine, missioners cant mission (well, suffer a lot isk wise), generally its a PITA unless your in the club. That is, you know, kinda the whole point of incursions.
What - the crap audio. The incessant drone. The PITA? One or all?
And as for mining, I am quite sure we wont be going into any of the sites, Orca costs, newbie miners have no tank. And everyone else doing sites is 4 jumps away - all 200 of them - milking the cow.
The cow should be more intelligent and leave, and fair enough, if it takes 2 hours for that 200 to kill the cow, the reward should be the same or commensurate.
At the moment its a week of 'hell' and that nothing to do with the actual game, its to do with the way its being farmed. |

Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:22:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:It's called "settings". Hit ESC key, click Audio tab, turn off eve sound. 1 problem solved. While there open your Display & Graphics settings tab and set 'Post Processing' to 'None' and the visual effect goes away as well.
Yup - way to design a game.
Annoying feature - just disable everything. |

Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:24:00 -
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Batelle wrote:
... my stuff
How about you stop whining that someone pissed in your sandbox and go mine 3 systems over? Would that be just too hard? You're acting like you want a personal apology from Sansha Kuvakei himself for your minor inconvenience.
And you stopped milking that come, came all the way here and added some constructive comments. Is it the thought that your dribble inducing isk supply might dry up if they took away your toys?
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Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:03:00 -
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Batelle wrote: ... my stuff
I don't even run incursions, just wanted to tell you now that your whining is pathetic. Biomass now. And telling you to go mine somewhere else IS a very constructive comment, because apparently you hadn't thought of it before.
An expert then, no genius, no ... there is no accolade high enough. You approach life with gusto and guile, always eloquent and sure. I envy you, yes I do. Really really do. |
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